Outrage and Optimism Podcast

Outrage and Optimism is a weekly podcast hosted by Global Optimism founders Tom Rivett-Carnac and Christiana Figueres and their long-time friend and collaborator Paul Dickinson.

Our aim with the podcast is to highlight how we need both the outrage we see on the streets as well as the deep conviction that we CAN address climate change to break through the current status quo. It’s not always easy to bring these two sentiments together, but we strongly feel that outrage without optimism leads to defeatism, and optimism without outrage leads to unacceptably incremental approaches. Instead, we endeavor to show how they can be forged into effective action.

Each week, we start with a round-up of what has made us feel either outraged or optimistic that week in the climate debate. This is followed by an in-depth interview with guest for the week, which to date have included David Attenborough, Ellie Goulding, Jane Goodall, Greta Thunberg, Richard Branson, Theresa May and David Miliband.


Latest episodes:

46. Corona and Climate (2): Let’s Get Ethical with Dr. Fatih Birol

Week 2 of our series on emerging stronger and better equipped from the coronavirus is here!

As many if not all national governments are rolling out stimulus packages to address the economic affects of COVID-19, why should economic stimulus packages be focused on the clean energy transition? Our interview this week is about the importance of ethics-based stimulus packages with Dr. Fatih Birol, Executive Director of the International Energy Agency.

Also – Christiana and Paul hold the fort down while Tom is away working on his TED Talk and they discuss what new ways of living in the pandemic that should stick once we return to “business as usual.”

W.H.O. COVID-19 Safety Guidelines: https://bit.ly/3di7SYm

45. Corona and Climate (1): Coming Back Stronger with the Teaching of Thich Nhat Hanh

We’re doing something new! This is the first episode on a multiple week journey to discover how we can come back from the crisis of COVID-19 better and stronger in our fight against climate change.

In this episode, we are joined by Sister True Dedication and Brother Phap Dung, senior monastics at Plum Village, a monastery started by well-known Buddhist Teacher, Thich Nhat Hanh. Paul brings us an isolation game, we play for you some clips of our life right now in this strange time, and Christiana schools us on her article published in TIME Magazine this week.

Visit Plum Village: Plumvillage.org

ATTN: W.H.O. COVID-19 Safety Guidelines: https://bit.ly/3di7SYm

44. Caring in the Times of Corona

As the news rolls in everyday from COVID-19, we take a pause to reflect on this past week. The sudden change in human behavior, how governments have done massive interventions to protect citizens, the ambition and action of businesses to slow contamination, and lastly, how humans have rediscovered humanity in caring for one another. Christiana brings a list of amazing things happening in the the midst of the pandemic, and Tom shares a bit about how a revelation during his time as a Buddhist Monk could change the world.

Send us your stories of how you’re experiencing this new normal: podcast@globaloptimism.com

ATTN: W.H.O. COVID-19 Safety Guidelines: https://bit.ly/3di7SYm

43. Coronavirus and The Climate Crisis + Live #TheFutureWeChoose Q+A!

With everyone grounded because of COVID-19, Tom and Paul dial each other from their homes in the UK to discuss just what Coronavirus is bringing to light about how we respond to a crisis. We manage to get Christiana on the phone for an update from the book tour in Australia, and we play the incredible live Q+A from #TheFutureWeChoose book event in Washington D.C.

“The Future We Choose” is available wherever you get your books!

42. Stella McCartney is Choosing a Fashionable Future

Christiana skips over to Paris Fashion Week to meet up with Stella McCartney, sustainable fashion designer. Stella’s luxury fashion brand has been animal-free since their founding in 2001. She and Christiana sneak 60 journalists into a secret event at the Opera Garnier and discuss the dark reality of fashion’s impact on the environment.

You can officially order “The Future We Choose” wherever books are sold! Click here to order your copy now.

41. A Live Conversation about “The Future We Choose” with Tom Friedman

This week we’re LIVE for a #TheFutureWeChoose conversation with NYT columnist and 3 time Pulitzer Prize winner, Tom Friedman.

The book is out! You can officially order it now wherever books are sold! Click here to order your copy now.

This episode was recorded at Politics and Prose, a fantastic bookstore in Washington D.C. https://www.politics-prose.com

40. John Kerry is Here and He’s Not Messing Around

The most consequential event this year in climate is the 2020 U.S. Election. Former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry gets real with us on why some people should be held criminally liable for not acting on climate science, why he’s optimistic about the future, and how climate as a voting issue can beat Donald Trump.

39. Science! Leadership! Action! with Rainn Wilson, Dr. Gail Whiteman, and David Perry

First, we meet up with Rainn Wilson (Dwight Schrute / The Office U.S.) and Dr. Gail Whiteman to talk about @ArcticBasecamp’s new campaign, “Speak Science To Power” and how we can give power to scientists and bring science into corporate boardrooms everywhere. Later on David Perry (Indigo Ag / Terraton Initiative) tells us why carbon shouldn’t be vilified and how we can solve the climate crisis by looking right where we’re standing.

38. Not All Superheroes Wear Capes with Oliver Bäte

This week a special guest drops in to chat with the gang! Hint: He’s a “High Level Climate Action Champion” (what a title!) They talk what is crucial to the lead up to COP 26 and why ambition is the heart of driving results this year on climate. Later on we’re joined by Oliver Bäte, CEO of Allianz. Oliver is boldly charging the insurance industry to divest from fossil fuels, and leading by example.

37. The Courage and The Clear Sight of Luisa Neubauer

At just 23 years of age, Luisa Neubauer is fighting for our future in ways that will shape the future of activism and corporate responsibility forever. A best selling author and #FridaysFor Future activist, Luisa got the attention of the CEO of Siemens over an investment they have in the infamous Adani coal mine in Australia. After Siemens offers her a position an advisory board for their new energy company, Luisa is faced with a decision.

36. The Great Australian Inferno with Kevin Rudd

It’s the “super year” for climate and the most consequential decade in human history! This week Tom and Christiana talk with former Prime Minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd. Kevin shows us the roots of why the Conservative Party in Australia and the Murdoch media empire are perpetuating a state of climate inaction, and why he’s optimistic that the Australian fires are the turning point for humanity and our climate.

35. Richard Curtis Has an Optimism That Comes From His Outrage

Tom and Christiana interview producer Richard Curtis. Richard is the creator of Bridget Jones Diary and Love Actually, but Richard’s social work with Comic Relief, Make Poverty History, and the 10:10 campaign are equally as inspiring.

34. A Live Conversation with Chris Anderson from TED

Tom has a in-depth conversation with Chris Anderson of TED. They speak on the history of The Paris Agreement and the ambition that TED has in new global TEDCountdown initiative for 2020.

33. The Green Belt Movement with Wanjira Mathai

This week we have an inspiring conversation with Wanjira Mathai as she talks about The Green Belt Movement, the interconnection of sustainability, and how to combat corruption & greed. We discuss the announcement by the European Investment Bank to stop funding fossil fuels, how psychology professionals plan to work on climate change, and Paul takes us on his trip to the Magic Kingdom.


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